Background with the 'help of the great physicist Antonino Zichichi : What does it mean
Existence , Exist?
" Existence in Physics means: space time, mass, energy and basic charges "(A. Zichichi, Because I believe in the One who made the world between faith and science , Basic Books, New, p. 132)
Question: el 'act of thinking (soul) is not there? No, Zichichi is right. The 'act of thinking is not mere existence, is to live. Living implies' existence, but not vice versa.
" Existence, in Matenatica, it means no contradiction "(A. Zichichi, ibid, p. 135)
theorem 'incompleteness of the 1931 Kurt Godel: Kurt Godel showed that" is not true that a logical construction would necessarily lead to a conclusion or its negation. E 'come out as strictly logical conclusion: it is impossible to decide " (A. Zichichi, ibdem, p. 137)
" If the logical rigor is not enough to get to prove a theorem, as can claim that the logical rigor - in the 'Immanent - can never lead to the proof of Theorem Supreme, namely the' existence of God? "(A. Zichichi, ibid, p. 138)
NB.: Do not forget that mathematics, mathematical logic, the numbers are Immanent.
" in the transcendent, what ever it means to exist? Where we could never imagine heaven? Certainly neither the
spaces or not in time nor in the mass either in 'energy or in the office or in the logical rigor of mathematics.
would be like putting a 'supreme and absolute entity under the control of those laws that we know ...
That 's the only answer to' existence of the transcendent and the 'Act of Faith "( A. Zichichi, ibid. 143-144).
That is to say that' can not demonstrate the immanent transcendent, can not bridge the gap between the two, can not make the leap and go beyond.
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An institution that combines all these qualities is not logically possible that it has not even a real existence. And so it goes from GODEL logical plan that is not factual because salvaguardarebbe consistency of logical discourse (= non-contradiction) if the supposition that the 'existence of God Godel, Plato, believed that mathematical truth, logic, and objective, ontological and not merely an elaboration of 'intellect. Therefore, the demonstration of 'existence of God can have a metaphysical existence, ontological as he conceives it. Even if it was by the experts of modal logic in the theorem belongs to the 'ontological existence of God is not just logical, it remains possible to think that' existence of God in the formal system of logic, coherent or consistent, as in it does not contain contradiction, does not prove anything to the 'existence of God in the Transcendent. Do not exceed the jump. Journalistically c 'is the writer, in effect, that Gödel proved the' existence of God The transition from 'immanent to the transcendent is appealing, but it is not legitimate. Philosophically it is begging, because we need to demonstrate the principle that we need instead to prove. Not enough consistency or logical consistency (= non-contradiction): This ensures the 'existence to' internal system of formal logic, in 'immanent, but you can not make the leap to the transcendent. The demonstration, which is composed of three definitions, six axioms, a theorem first with two other theorems and a corollary is essentially equivalent to an a priori proof. His proof, assuming that it is valid (the experts cast doubt on sharply above the second axiom), is a demonstration only logic of 'God's existence, however we must remember that the truth, Plato, is not equal to provability. This knows also the most advanced science, so the non provability of transcendence can be seen as its non-existence of many natural truths, and today perhaps never, does not, you can not deduct their non-existence sic et simpliciter.
also philosophical proofs (which are not evidence and it would be best to call way), do not get better results, both a priori and a posteriori ones. The tests do not depend on a priori 'experience, information from the outside world, but only by reason, subsequent tests rely on experiential information. Anselmo d 'Aosta wants to prove the' existence of God only in a logical manner. Therefore, its test is not ontological, as has become custom to say that Kant on, but logical. The test provides in Chapter Two of Proslogion . Here are the steps. For Anselmo d 'Aosta is God:
"What we can not think of anything more" (aliquid quo nihil maius cogitari possit).
"What we can not think of anything more "can not be only in the intellect.
L 'Abbe Gaunilone preclude serious objections to this topic. Do not just think of an 'island full of delight, for there. Anselmo d' Aosta argues that the 'example is not accurate, because it is not ontological. L' island is not the greatest thing you can think . It has a limited perfection, God is all perfection. Gaunilone emphasizes that it is not legitimate the transition from the conceptual level of the proof, the actual ontological existence. This is the weak point and not a priori demonstration of the test. It 's the weak point of all tests in advance. It 's also the weak point of Godel's theorem, if they actually mean, as seems to move from plan to plan logical mathematical ontology.
Thomas Aquinas 'thought unfounded a priori proof of Anselmo d' Aosta. In the Summa Contra Gentiles writes: "Among the atheist is not known to all that He is bigger than you might think," and directs all subsequent tests, it is best to call and routes that can be summarized as follows:
Even these are not evidence, but ways in which you can get a conviction, a reasoned conviction of the 'idea of' Idea deduced from the existence of God and quae facta sunt , not a priori or innate.
If it was only in the intellect, you'd think something that was also exists in reality and that something would be greater than something existing only in the intellect."
If "what we can not think of anything more" was only in the intellect, "what we can not think nothing more "would be" what we think is the greater. And this is a contradiction. "Therefore God exists.
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L 'Abbe Gaunilone preclude serious objections to this topic. Do not just think of an 'island full of delight, for there. Anselmo d' Aosta argues that the 'example is not accurate, because it is not ontological. L' island is not the greatest thing you can think . It has a limited perfection, God is all perfection. Gaunilone emphasizes that it is not legitimate the transition from the conceptual level of the proof, the actual ontological existence. This is the weak point and not a priori demonstration of the test. It 's the weak point of all tests in advance. It 's also the weak point of Godel's theorem, if they actually mean, as seems to move from plan to plan logical mathematical ontology.
Thomas Aquinas 'thought unfounded a priori proof of Anselmo d' Aosta. In the Summa Contra Gentiles writes: "Among the atheist is not known to all that He is bigger than you might think," and directs all subsequent tests, it is best to call and routes that can be summarized as follows:
- Ex Motu (ie, "the motion" that moves everything requires a cause first because, as Aristotle teaches, "You can not go to infinity in the search for causes)
- Ex Case (ie" the cause "every effect needs a cause, the need of a first cause uncaused )
- Ex quotas (ie, "the quota" for all things exist, but may not exist, did not in itself the reason for their existence and, therefore, be necessary to refer to a)
- Ex Gradu (ie "the degree" things have different degrees of perfection, but only a maximum degree perfection enables the intermediate stages)
- Ex Fine (meaning "the end" all things in the universe are ranked according to a purpose, then, there must be an intelligence that orders them so ) ;
Even these are not evidence, but ways in which you can get a conviction, a reasoned conviction of the 'idea of' Idea deduced from the existence of God and quae facta sunt , not a priori or innate.